My thoughts on suggested swaps – Gurushots
So, over the last few weeks or so I’ve read several posts on
The way the system works
The system uses Artificial Intelligence (or AI for short) to label each and every photo uploaded (I’m guessing there are multiple billions by now). Then to make a suggestion it searches those labels to see if any of them match the challenges that are currently running. If it finds a match, it then does some calculations on the votes those photos have achieved in previous challenges and then finally makes, what it believes, is a good suggestion that will give you more votes.
Now, it’s the AI that is causing the issue here. When I say AI I am, of course, referring to the code behind the Gurushots image recognition system. The code as in the ones and zeros that can ‘look’ at a photo and distinguish, with a high degree of accuracy, between thousands of different objects. For me that alone is mind-boggling. And as far as I’m aware this technology isn’t being used on this scale by anyone else. *I’m fearing the comments to say I’m wrong here.
Occasionally the system does find something in a photo that is obviously (to the human eye) not in the photo. It might
So, what’s the point?
Simple, to give you more options and no extra cost (in terms of money or time). This image recognition also allows you to search your photos too using these labels. I can’t count the number of mind-numbing hours I’ve spend keywording/labeling photos for stock websites. I guess it will only be a matter of time before the stock websites catch up and offer a similar service. Knowing some of them I guess there may even be a fee for using this service.
ones and zeros that can ‘look’ at a photo and distinguish, with a high degree of accuracy, between thousands of different objects… mind-boggling
I would also love, love, love to have keyword/label suggestions in Lightroom. I have hundreds of thousands of photos in my catalogs and manually labeling/keywording them is a pain in the butt, to say the least. No doubt I’m missing many many useful keywords. The addition of which would bring to light photos that I may have forgotten about or not considered for a particular project/client.
Don’t forget…
There are 2 things that we should also remember. Firstly you can edit these labels as much as you want. So, if you see the AI has mistaken your photo of a turtle for a rifleย (I’ve never seen a case this extreme on Gurushots) then you can simply remove the tag ‘rifle’ and add the tag ‘turtle’. Simple.
Secondly, these are only computer generated suggestions and they are very simple to ignore. Even humans make bad suggestions sometimes, and what do we do when that happens? We simply ignore it and move on.
When I studied software engineering at university AI was a thing of sci-fi films, something that seemed like an impossible dream. But here we are in 2019 using it to play a gameโฆ Personally, I still find the whole thing amazing.
Is the Gurushots image recognition system perfect? No way! Will it ever be? Well, I have my doubts that technology will ever be able to recognize every object 100% of the time. But then 20 years ago I couldn’t imagine AI doing what it does now – so who knows.ย It’s still early days for this type of cutting edge technology.
Dana Chmilevschi
February 18, 2019 @ 6:02 pm
HI, Tom. I found helpful the “switch” suggestions. Sometimes i receivea suggestion about a photo I simply forgotten. Of course, I would not use the wrong ones, I am happy to chose or to delete the suggested wrong photos and to add my own. It is true, some times it is hilarious what the AI can suggest but that is not such a big problem. Thank you for your intervention.
Tom Bourdon
February 18, 2019 @ 6:26 pm
Yes, that little refresh button will give you alternatives, I probably should have mentioned that as an option in the post. Thanks for bringing it up :)
Tom
Zdravka
February 18, 2019 @ 6:44 pm
Great suggestion Tom,this system is not working well,thank you.Greetings
Lynn Shelton
February 18, 2019 @ 7:03 pm
I have taken to going through all my profile pics and checking, editing and adding keywords myself. I also initially turn down the system’s offer and suggestions for a new challenge, go pick for myself what I want to submit, find the open challenge again and manually submit my own selections. It is seeming to make some real improvements in outcomes. Timing of boosts and swaps can also be critical, and has to include real study and research of the gurus involved in your challenges. Am I on a productive track here?
Tom Bourdon
February 19, 2019 @ 2:23 pm
Hi Lynn,
It sounds like you’re doing exactly what I suggest :) If you keep experimenting with your entry times (or swaps) and improving your work to meet the Gurus tastes then it’ll just be a matter of time before it all comes together.
Best of luck
Tom
Ioan Herlo
February 19, 2019 @ 11:08 am
All good and understandable. I actually like some of the suggestions. Sometimes I accept them, sometimes I look for something else.
I just wished that Gurushots would find a way to delete pictures from the portfolio in a DECENT manner. Right now deleting a picture is a test of patience and resistance to visual rapid changes. Forget about actually doing a real cleanup. It really is a disgrace to have such a primitive way of deleting when they use AI for other things. :-)
Tom Bourdon
February 19, 2019 @ 2:25 pm
Hi Ioan, what is it you find so difficult about deleting your photos? All you need to do is simply hover over the photo you want to delete and click the trash can, then click to confirm you want to delete it. Do you have suggestions as to how this can be improved?
Tom
karen scheliga
November 13, 2020 @ 5:12 am
being able to delete more than one at a time would be great. I hate keeping ones that do poorly in a challenge . if you delete one picture you have to start at the top again and wait for all photos to reload . it really is very time consuming. it should work the same as our photo files in our computers.
Aguerrebere Leiva Pablo Esteban
May 2, 2019 @ 3:11 pm
Hola todo muy bueno, pero para los que estamos en el hemisferio sur es imposible ganar, (ARGENTINA) yo me voy a dormir con mi foto en primer lugar y cuando me despierto estoy en el puesto 500.
Olga
May 11, 2019 @ 3:31 pm
Hi Tom!
It”s nice to know that GS is improving their used AI/MI :-) But in my opinion the big point of it is to reject pics which are off topic according the challenge theme if it is not free of any theme, course, because of it”s so boring to do this off topic mark to every second pic in 2 levels, especially in your running challenges where is a big amount of pics on/off topic, obviously of huge quantiy of gamers are uploading their pics as photographs (Ha-ha). As i see the best AI nowdays has Youtube, because it includes some emotional parameters also not only pragmatic mental and course Google was&is the first in this area. Anyway good luck in developing GS AI :-) . In future may be only some (very few) individual photographers still exist if this trend goes on&up. Ex-Machine time is coming, who knows for worst or best . Smtn like that, just my thoughts at the moment you can delete this comment anytime you want
julia
May 13, 2019 @ 10:00 pm
Sorry the insistence Tom but the disappearance of the photos in the game generates distrust in the app…
Tom Bourdon
May 14, 2019 @ 3:42 am
Hi Julia, sorry I’m not sure what you are referring to. This sounds like is might be a support issue and you should probably contact the support team at gurushots.com/contact
All the best
julia
May 13, 2019 @ 10:03 pm
I had reached the level all star in the challenge Captured for “GuruShots” Challenge and the photos disappeared leaving only one and the level skiller… ;( any solution?
Tom Bourdon
May 14, 2019 @ 3:42 am
See my message above :)
julia
May 14, 2019 @ 6:47 am
Thank you, Tom!!! I will consult with the support :)